From: Janet Davis (jlnd_at_cs.washington.edu)
Date: Wed Feb 18 2004 - 10:57:02 PST
I received some very thoughtful feedback on Homework 2, Question 2, which
you may read below. I'll remember your advice to give smaller, more
frequent homework for classes I teach in the future.
I hope that the point distribution (and the length of the problem
statements!) gives you more idea of how long the problems on Homework 3
should take. In particular, you might want to start thinking about
Question 3 sooner rather than later -- design problems often need creative
solutions and benefit from being kept in the back of your mind for a
while.
Cheers,
Janet
-- Janet Davis jlnd_at_cs.washington.edu http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/jlnd/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:54:38 -0800 From: Anonymous Sender <webmaint_at_cs.washington.edu> To: jlnd_at_cs.washington.edu Subject: Feedback for Homework 2, Question 2 [anonymous feedback] >Related to this, I've gotten feedback that question 2 on homework 2 was >time-consuming for its educational value. This is a question that's been >used on 461 homework assignments for several years, and likely will be used >again in the future. If you have any ideas for improving it, please let me >know. I think that I learned quite a bit from this question. However, I must agree that it was time consuming. I will venture to guess that the major source of complaints is that people aren't scheduling their homework well. Many, myself included, did the bulk of the assignment the night before it was due. The reason for this is as follows: We all have numerous other homework assignments that are known to be time-consuming like programming projects, etc. When an assignment is distributed, we must glance it over and make a rough guess at how long the assignment will take. Then, we schedule it accordingly, often putting the known time-consuming projects first. However, until we actually DO the assignments we have no way of knowing that our estimates are accurate. >From the outside, question 2 looks to be relatively short. But as it turns out, the finer details consume loads of time. When I first got this assignment, I estimated it to be about as long as the first one. It turned out to be twice to three times as long. I think that a very good solution to this "time-consuming" problem is to have MORE SHORTER homeworks. Question 2 could have fit nicely into its own little assignment. Many of us may suffer from "one-sitting syndrome", where we like to do everything all at once. This is, after all, the most efficient way of doing individual work. Others may have classes that also have more frequent homeworks that put long-term projects like our written homeworks off further and further. It doesn't seem to make much sense at all to cram several questions into only 3 assignments for the entire quarter. What is wrong with putting only one or two questions in a homework every week? The graders will still end up grading the same amount of work, and we learn the same amount of information (probably better, since we revisit the topics more frequently). One may argue that long-term projects are more representative of real-life tasks in the workforce. While this may indeed be true, the schedule of a student is very different from a schedule of an employee. If this analogy holds, then students work 3 or 4 different jobs (each class is a job), not just one. In addition, the work day is dedicated to doing the assigned task, whereas the class day is dedicated to attending lecture. For the student, "free" time is dedicated to doing the assigned task. Finally, the employee is simply trying to complete an assigned task, whereas a student is trying to learn (and remember) at the same time. Thus, I don't believe this argument holds much credibility in this regard. In conclusion, I think that a more evenly distributed homework regimen would help the outlook on the assignments considerably. Submitter checked "permission to post publicly" box: yes [This message was send by a user employing the CSE Anonymous Feedback Form See http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/edtech/anon-feedback.html for details. DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MESSAGE-- the sender is anonymous, and any reply you send will be received, uselessly, by a system administrator.] _______________________________________________ Cse461 mailing list Cse461_at_cs.washington.edu http://mailman.cs.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/cse461
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