Notes from 2003/10/07 meeting of CSE590ED

We discussed Vibha's experience at CCSC-NW. Here are some random notes.

Vibha pointed out that CCSC (at least) believes it is the largest computer science publisher. This was met with some skepticism given that the ACM publishes truckloads of papers.

Joan ?? discussed making CSE accessible and spoke in particular about blind students. She said that CS was more accessible than math in general (b/c the symbols are relatively more comprehensible??) but that some Braille symbols were being changed to make it more accessible (like an actual plus-shaped arrangement for a plus sign), in particular for previously sighted people? She also discussed some basic techniques to make classroom instruction more accessible like avoiding deixis (pointing references). Finally, she pointed out that many interests may compete for blind students' hearing resources. For example, they may be trying to listen to the textbook or other material from screen-readers during class which would compete with spoken instructions. Instructors should be aware of this both to accomodate and to avoid inappropriate use (like compiling code during exams on ostensible screen-reading devices!).

The CC2001 panel basically came to the conclusion that CC2001 is impossible at small colleges b/c it requires everything and that the colleges respond by figuring out how much of CC2001 they can manage. Vibha says that many are using a "medley" course to at least expose students to some of the many areas mentioned in CC2001.

The other big topic of conversation from CCSC was Josh, Donald, and Phil's contentious panel about data structures. Should only APIs be taught? Should students learn internal details? Should the course focus on applications?

Finally, we laid out a plan for the next few weeks. We'll be looking at "alternative, non-computer CS exercises". These are short, classroom exercises that do not involve the computer, are "out of the ordinary", and generally are cool.